Thursday, May 30, 2013

Alleged Bin Ladin assasination insertion went terribly wrong, unlikely SEALS were involved.

by Atom Ant (Notes) on Thursday, May 5, 2011 at 6:07am

In truth, this appears to be as bad as Jimmy Carter's hostage rescue attempt screw up... and the Bin Laden killing claim was to cover it up.


The helicopter used in the insertion did not have "mechanical trouble" as put out by the Obama news propaganda machine. It clearly crashed. With this first clear lie, I have to question the entire story.

First it is unlikely Obama was playing golf and had to be called to the White House to watch the mission. It is more likely he was called in because of the crash of a special Army helicopter in Pakistan (an alleged ally).

I am a helicopter pilot that flew in the military, have tested aircraft, and have investigated accidents for the military and for the FAA.

Here is my interpretation of what occurred with the few photos available.

When making the insertion the helicopters came in low and relatively fast. They flew in this manner to avoid radar detection. There is no way they would not have gone in without a gunship leading the insertion team, which was then used for high cover as the troops dropped into the compound. The Marine amphibious assault teams I worked with did this type of mission hundreds of times.

Once on target, in order to slow down, the pilot had to make a "quick stop". This maneuver his hard to do correctly in the day light with a head wind. This pilot had to do this with night vision goggles that severely reduce depth perception. This involves dropping the collective as the nose is lifted almost standing the helicopter on its tail. Tail strikes are common when practicing this maneuver. The usual cause is "settling with power". This is when the helicopter enters its own down wash of air. This creates an odd phenomenon where increasing power only causes the helicopter to fall faster. All helicopter pilots train how to avoid and get out of this condition.


http://www.dynamicflight.com/flight_maneuvers/quickstops/

The tail section struck the compounds wall when the helicopter was in position 4 of the diagram.

What likely contributed to this crash was the other helicopters involved in the insertion and their down wash. The gun ship / ships, which likely were providing high cover produced a down wash that the insertion helicopter could be effected by. The insertion helicopter came in below the support gun ships and likely entered their down wash.



Clearly the tail section struck the wall and separated from the helicopter on approach. The main section of the helicopter then crashed and burned inside the compound. This was no "mechanical trouble" as they first reported, unless you call crashing into a wall "mechanical trouble".



It looks like the pilot when in position 4 of the first diagram "settled with power" (lost lift) probably due to the down wash of the other helicopters involved in the insertion. http://www.cybercom.net/~copters/aero/settling.html

The helicopter then struck the wall during the insertion leaving the tail section on one side of the wall and the main body of the helicopter crashing down on the other side of the wall. The helicopter either burned by itself or the troops set the helicopter on fire after retrieving the occupants. It is more likely this burned on its own killing and /or injuring its occupants.

The Pakistanis were informed of the need to hide the remains, but did not do a very good job as seen here.




Sadly, I don't believe this crash was without serious bodily injury or death.

To hide deaths in covert operations, it is very common for the deaths are reported two or three weeks later as IED or training accidents.

May 26, 2011, three weeks after this crash 7 soldiers were killed by an IED and two helicopter pilots were killed. This would be the size of an insertion team, and the number of pilots on this aircraft.

The report claims 7 soldiers were killed by an IED in a field. This is a very fishy story, because 7 soldiers would not likely be traveling close enough spread out in a field on patrol. The claim was the soldiers hit a very large IED. This story of an IED doesn't pass the smell test.

Here are the soldiers that likely died in this raid. Note they are ARMY and not SEALS.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/26/7-nato-service-members-killed-afghanistan/?test=latestnews

SEALS are not stationed at Army bases, and it is an Army base that Obama, went to thank the soldiers for their mission. Fort Campbell, KY. Claiming SEALS were involved was to through off the public and possible enemy reprisal. "President Obama greets military personnel at Fort Campbell this afternoon" (Note - the AIRBORNE flags) not one SEAL in sight... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384432/President-Obama-flies-military-base-meet-Navy-SEALs-killed-Osama-Bin-Laden.html

Bin Laden was allegedly killed in Abbottabad, Pakistan. An Army helicopter pilot, Chief Warrant Officer Christopher R. Thibodeau, was reported as dying from injuries from a crash in Paktika Afghanistan, the closest Afghan providence to Abbottabad, Pakistan and likely mission launching point. First reports was a training accident then it was changed to combat. Later changed to "died May 26 in Naka Bowl, Paktika province, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained when his helicopter crashed during combat operations."

http://militarytimes.com/valor/army-chief-warrant-officer-christopher-r-thibodeau/6567760

Here CNN screws up the faked report: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/24/afghanistan.chopper.crash/index.html This was notification that a NATO helicopter crew member was killed between April 26 and May 24. It is likely the flight crew for the mission included someone fluent in Pakistani Arabic or possibly a Turkish citizen to throw off Pakistani ATC should the insertion team be seen and called by ATC.

The two reports, one CNN the other over various American news outlets for the military, were to account for the 2 pilots killed, one American the other a NATO member helicopter pilot.

There is still no explanation as to why Bin Laden, a very sick man in 2000, was allegedly living without need of medical devises May 2011 in Pakistan.

Two months later, as the glee subsided from the story Bin Laden was dead, and people began to question the story, 22 members of SEAL TEAM 6 were killed... These SEALS were likely killed to cover up the botched raid. Far too many people were questioning the first story.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/helicopter-shot-25-navy-seals-dead-crash-afghanistan/story?id=14245387


Note - how they report first claimed they were the SEALS involved in the raid... and then later the report was changed.

Leaked: Bin Laden not buried at sea, body moved on CIA plane to US...

The body of Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was not buried at sea, according to leaked emails of intelligence firm Stratfor, as revealed by WikiLeaks.
Stratfor’s vice-president for intelligence, Fred Burton, believes the body was “bound for Dover, [Delaware] on [a] CIA plane” and then “onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda [Maryland],” an email says.
The official version is that the body of Al-Qaeda’s top man, who was killed by a US raid in Pakistan on May 2, 2011, was buried at an undisclosed location at sea in a proper Muslim ceremony.
"If body dumped at sea, which I doubt, the touch is very Adolph Eichman like. The Tribe did the same thing with the Nazi's ashes," Burton commented in another email. Eichman was one of the masterminds of the Holocaust by Nazi Germany. He was captured by Mossad agents in Argentina and, tried in Israel, found guilty and executed in 1962. His body was cremated and his ashes were scattered at sea over the Mediterranean.
"Eichmann was seen alive for many months on trial before being sentenced to death and executed. No one wanted a monument to him so they cremated him. But i dont know anyone who claimed he wasnt eicjhman [sic]. No comparison with suddenly burying him at sea without any chance to view him which i doubt happened [sic]," Stratfor CEO George Friedman replied.
"The US Govt needs to make body pics available like the MX's do, with OBL's pants pulled down, to shout down the lunatics like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck," Burton says in another message.
In another missive Burton says Osama’s body “is a crime scene and I don’t see the FBI nor DOJ letting that happen.”
WikiLeaks began publishing Stratfor emails in late February. The archive was obtained by the hacker group Anonymous, which successfully attacked one of the firm’s servers. More than 5 million emails were apparently stolen.
Stratfor is a US-based intelligence firm called the “shadow CIA” by some media. Among its clients are several US agencies and many big companies. The company relies on paid tips from informants placed in high circles of business, government and security all around the world. Read more via RT...

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Obama: 'I Don’t Have Much Patience for People Who Deny Climate Change'

"My only interest is making sure that when I look back 20 years from now..."

7:02 AM, May 30, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER
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At a fundraiser last night in Chicago, President Barack Obama signaled that he's interested in his legacy as a president and insisted that he's willing to work with anyone.
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"My only interest is making sure that when I look back 20 years from now, I say I accomplished everything that I could while I had this incredible privilege to advance the interests of the broadest number of Americans and to make sure that this country was stronger and more prosperous than it was when I came into office.  That’s my only interest," the president said.
"And that means that I am willing to work with anybody -- Republican, Democrat or independent -- to get stuff done.  And I am not going to put the pause button on for the next year and a half or two years or whatever it is, simply to position myself for the next election.  If I’ve got a Republican who’s willing to work with me to rebuild our infrastructure, let’s go.  If I’ve got a Republican out there who’s willing to get serious about what we need to deal with our long-term deficit challenges, I’m prepared, come on, let’s talk."
But Obama then suggested he'd draw the line at "climate change" deniers. "If I’ve got somebody who has a different approach to dealing with climate change -- I don’t have much patience for people who deny climate change, but if you’ve got creative approaches, market-based approaches, tell me about them.  If you think I’m doing it the wrong way, let me know. I’m happy to work with you," said Obama.
The fundraiser at a private residence was to support the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Asteroid 9 Times size of Ocean Liner Approaches Earth

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The 1998 QE2 asteroid has the physical mass to potentially deliver life on Earth a knockout punch, being 2.7km in length. It is to buzz our planet on May 31, aweing the stargazing community.
Officially known as Asteroid 1998 QE2, the ‘minor planet’, as astronomers refer to these space objects, is about nine times the length of its name-sharing ocean liner, Queen Elizabeth 2.
The incoming space object is not named in honor of Queen Elizabeth II, however, nor the 12-deck QE2 luxury liner. It’s simply the designation assigned by the US Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts, based on an alphanumeric code for naming newly-discovered asteroids.
Aside from the asteroid’s hulking mass, another thing that intrigues astronomers about QE2 is that nobody can say with any certainty where it came from.
One clue to its origins, however, is that its surface is said to be covered with a sticky, black residue, suggesting that it may be the remains of a comet that came in close proximity to the sun, Amy Mainzer, a researcher at Jet Propulsion Laboratory at La Cañada Flintridge, California, told the Los Angeles Times.
Another explanation is that QE2, discovered on August 19, 1998 by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, was originally part of the asteroid belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, she said.

QE2’s nearest approach happens on May 31 at 20:59 GMT, bringing the huge space rock to within 3.6 million miles (5.8 million km) of Earth – about 15 times the distance to the Moon. While this may seem a great distance, in astronomical terms it is a mere stone’s throw away.
Mainzer emphasized the significance of the asteroid, drawing parallels with a past celestial event that had devastating consequences for the entire planet.
"This is a really big asteroid, similar in size to the one that killed off the dinosaurs, and it's getting very close to us," she told the Times.
"Fortunately we've been tracking its orbit very carefully so we know with great certainty it won't hit us. We don't need to panic, but we do need to pay attention, she added.
Since the threat of a doomsday scenario seems unlikely, astronomers will be given an opportunity to study the physical characteristics of asteroids, as well as their history.
"Whenever an asteroid approaches this closely, it provides an important scientific opportunity to study it in detail to understand its size, shape, rotation, surface features, and what they can tell us about its origin,”radar astronomer Lance Benner, the principal investigator for the Goldstone radar observations from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, said in a statement.

Observers will take advantage of radar technology to measure the asteroid's distance and velocity to improve the calculation of its orbit and compute its motion farther into the future than we could otherwise, he added.
The next arrival of Asteroid 1998 QE2 following its near-miss on May 31 will not occur again for another two centuries.

Rocky history

For millions of years, Earth has been occasionally pounded by space objects both large and small. Russia, due to its sprawling landmass, has played an unwitting host to many of these celestial bodies.
In 1908, a comet explosion over a largely uninhabited area of Siberia flattened some 80 million trees. The so-called Tunguska Event is recognized as the largest impact event on or near Earth in recorded history: The explosion was about 1,000 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan.
More recently, on February 15 this year, a meteor exploded in the sky over the Russian city of Chelyabinsk. The shock waves from the explosion shattered windows and damaged buildings, injuring more than 1,500 people, mostly from flying glass and other debris.
Following the Chelyabinsk meteorite, which is the largest known space object to have entered Earth's atmosphere since the Tunguska Event, NASA chief Charles Bolden gave advice on how to handle an asteroid that was on a collision course with Earth “if it's coming in three weeks”: Pray.
While NASA is tracking about 95 per cent of the largest objects flying near Earth, only about 10 per cent of an estimated 10,000 asteroids with a diameter of 50 meters (165 feet) or more have been identified.
Meanwhile, mankind continues the search for ways to counter future space objects deemed dangerous.
Just days after the Russian meteor struck, the European Space Agency (ESA) announced a joint mission between Europe and the US that aims to strike an asteroid with a spacecraft.
The Joint European/US Asteroid impact and Deflection Assessment mission (AIDA) is preparing to intercept the asteroid Didymos in 2022, when it is about 6.5 million miles (11 million km) from Earth.
Didymos, which poses no immediate threat to Earth, is actually a binary system, in which an 800-meter-wide asteroid and a smaller 150-meter space rock orbit each other.
The AIDA mission - designed to test the theory that governments can protect the planet from a space object on a collision course with the planet - will target the smaller asteroid with a rocket at about 14,000 mph (22,539 kph) in an effort to knock the object off course.
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Kissinger: U.S. and China to Collaborate on Globalist “World Order”

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In the video below, Rockefeller protégé and operative Henry Kissinger calls for the United States and the authoritarian government of China to work together to create a globalist totalitarian government.
Kissinger U.S. and China to Collaborate on Globalist “World Order”
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“The challenge is,” Kissinger told the Asia Society last week, “how to build a world order for the first time in history on a global basis. We talk a lot about world community but the fact is there has never been a world community before” and he then suggested China and the U.S. collaborate on such an effort.
David Rockefeller has paid homage to the communist Chairman Mao, the most prolific mass murderer of the 20th century (responsible for the liquidation of between 49-78,000,000 Chinese).
Rockefeller regards Mao as an ideal leader and the communist revolution and its murderous political purges as a template for world government.
“Whatever the price of the Chinese revolution [an indirect reference to millions killed] , it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose… The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history,” Rockefeller wrote for the New York Times on August 10, 1973.
Rockefeller lavished praise on Mao and the communists three years before the end of the Cultural Revolution in China. Conservative estimates of the death toll exacted by Mao’s cultural purge exceed 30 million people.
Rockefeller’s trusted minion, Henry Kissinger, believes now is the time to export what Mao did in China to the entire world.

UN Watch in the News Iran to chair UN nuke disarmament conference

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Iran to chair UN nuke disarmament conference
May 14, 2013
The Jerusalem Post
By Michael Wilner
NEW YORK – Iran will chair a United Nations conference on disarmament in Geneva this month, raising eyebrows from Western powers skeptical of Iran’s own nuclear ambitions.

The UN conference addresses not only nuclear proliferation but policies concerning the race to weaponize space, the production of radiological weapons and the stockpiling or use of other weapons of mass destruction.

In a statement issued Monday afternoon, the United States said it would withdraw ambassadorial representation at the conference in protest so long as Iran retained its chair. Calling Iran's chairmanship "highly inappropriate," the statement from the US mission to the UN noted that the Islamic Republic was under UN Chapter VII sanctions for weapons proliferation and human-rights abuses.
"While the presidency of the CD is largely ceremonial and involves no substantive responsibilities, allowing Iran--a country that is in flagrant violation of its obligations under multiple UN Security Council Resolutions and to the IAEA Board of Governors--to hold such a position runs counter to the goals and objectives of the Conference on Disarmament itself," the statement read.

“Any member state that is the subject of UN Security Council sanctions for proliferation – and found guilty of massive human rights violations – should be ineligible to hold a leadership position in a UN body,” said Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch, which first noticed the chairmanship.

“We urge world leaders to declare that allowing Iran to chair a UN disarmament body is simply unacceptable, given the fundamentalist regime’s illicit activities in precisely the opposite direction,” said Neuer.


Iran will chair the conference barely a month after Geneva held a separate preparatory conference on the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or NPT, where Iran and North Korea were the top two concerns of participating states.

Iran remains one of 189 signatories of that treaty, though the DPRK does not, since withdrawing in 2003.

At the preparatory meeting in April, Angela Kane, head of the UN Office for Disarmament Affairs, told member states that a cohesive international effort would be required to address Iran.

“The whole raison d’être of this review process is to focus on implementation of commitments relating to the treaty’s three pillars – nuclear disarmament, nonproliferation and peaceful uses of nuclear energy,” Ms. Kane said.

“What is most needed now in NPT arenas is to revive a sense of forward progress, however slow, however difficult it may be,” she added.

The office of Secretary- General Ban Ki-moon provided no comment on Iran’s position as chair, noting that such decisions are left to member states.

Original URL: http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/Iran-to-chair-UN-sponsored-nuclear-disarmament-conference-313098

Obama Surrenders U.S. Sovereignty: His INTERPOL Executive Order

Quietly, Obama just made it much easier for the International Criminal Court to go after American "war criminals."
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At ThreatsWatch.org, Steve Schippert and Clyde Middleton have dug up the bizarre and unsettling issuance of an executive order recently signed by President Barack Obama. Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425, signed December 16 and released a day later, grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) rights on American soil that place it beyond the reach of our own law enforcement agencies, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
Schippert and Middleton note that Obama’s order removes protections placed upon INTERPOL by President Reagan in 1983. Obama’s order gives the group the authority to avoid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests — which means this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against governmental abuse. “Property and assets,” including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations and records are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities.
If the president of the United States has an aboveboard reason for making a foreign law enforcement agency exempt from American laws on American soil, it wasn’t shared by the White House.
Andy McCarthy, former assistant United States attorney for the Southern District of New York and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, notes at National Review that the limitations that Obama removed are “what prevents law-enforcement and its controlling government authority from becoming tyrannical.”
A paragraph later, McCarthy describes Obama’s actions in the starkest of terms:
This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.
Some bloggers covering this story are noting that the law enforcement agency to which Obama has extended such extraordinary powers to has had a dismal past.
INTERPOL’s senior leadership was flush with Nazis from the late 1930s all the way into the 1970s. That fact allowed, going Godwin isn’t necessarily relevant to today’s organization. Khoo Boon Hui of Singapore is the current president of the organization, and the current secretary general is American Ronald Noble. Noble is perhaps best known in America for overseeing the Treasury Department’s review of the disastrous 1993 raid and siege of a Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, that left nearly 80 people dead. Noble had cautioned against the initial raid plan as being too dangerous, but the lack of any significant ramifications for federal officials that approved of the raid and allegations of a cover-up have inspired conspiracy theorists to derisively dub Noble “the Enforcer.”
But INTERPOL’s past isn’t what concerns us at this moment. Its current actions and the actions of our president are those that we question.
With the flourish of a pen and no warning at all, Barack Obama surrendered American sovereignty to an international force with a checkered past. To what end?